Reviews and Passionate Fans

A couple of weeks ago, a review was pointed out by dear Àdhamh Ó Broin, the Gaelic coach on Outlander. He was quite frustrated with the review because the person obviously had not properly screened that which he reviewed and was very negative about Outlander (the series).

Now, generally speaking I avoid reading reviews of anything as I find my personal tastes tend to clash with most people that review things ‘professionally’. I’m reading more and more blogs though and this happened to fall into that category.

I hesitate to give this guy any more attention, but if you want to actually get his side of things, here is the link. Dirty Gaelic, the Black House and crap telly My comments to the author are published under WolfeTales. He actually reviews several things (he so grossly misrepresented Outlander I didn’t even bother reading the rest of the article because it was quite obvious he couldn’t be trusted to be at all accurate) and the Outlander review is right on top. The comments are below, though if you look at this on his main page rather than separated out, the comments are very difficult to find or figure out how to participate in.

I’ve had people say you shouldn’t bother commenting on such an article – give them silence because they aren’t worth the time to type a response. I can’t agree with that. Someone having no idea what Outlander (the books or series) is really about would read that and be given a totally inaccurate idea of the show. Some may say ‘oh right up my alley’….but a great many others, guys especially, would be thinking ‘oh crap another soft porn chick flick series – no thank you’ just as the author put out there. That is not only totally unfair to the show and all that is behind it, it is extremely unfair to the person reading the review.

I so hate that these books and this show have been peddled as ‘romance’. It touches a bigger audience initially, but the very idea has turned off many as well – particularly male readers. I’ve been trying to get my guy to read the books for years. He consented to sit through the series with me (gruffly) but has now read the first book and is the one insisting we have to watch Eps 1-8 before 9 airs on April 4! The other books are queued up on his Kindle. Not that I am complaining. It took that though to get him around the idea of it being a ‘romance’. That whole idea is another blog I’m working on so I won’t get into it here.

What’s really interesting is there are no more comments posted after mine on this story, yet he has now blogged a ‘retraction’ of sorts.

Facing the wrath of an audience scorned

referencing my tweets among others. His condescending manner in this next blog is truly insulting. Perhaps he is just a sad man that feels the need to be negative. Perhaps he thinks he is being funny – I personally think he comes across as insinuating his readers are idiots and can’t see through his obnoxious rant.

I’ve had books I didn’t like. For example, Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follet. In my last job I worked in a St. Vincent de Paul retail store and ran the book department. (It’s how I found Outlander and a great many other books/authors I love). I had many of my customers say ‘you simply must read Pillars of the Earth! Greatest book ever!’ and many other similar comments. I finally sat down with it. Some very interesting and well-written characters, amazing detail about the building of this cathedral, real history woven in (sounding a bit like Outlander eh?) but I just couldn’t get ‘in’ to the authors writing style. It didn’t ‘grab’ me as some other authors do. I still recommended the book for all the reasons I gave, but also told people honestly that I hadn’t finished it and why. I also told them I had many people highly recommend it. Another example. Anne Rice writing as A. N. Roquelaure. Loved the vampire books and when I realized A.N. Roquelaure was the same author and that it was a new take on a classic faerie tale I thought ‘way cool’. Not so much. I didn’t read very far before putting that book aside. Just not my thing. I’ll never read 50 Shades of Grey for the same reason. Nothing wrong with the books – just not my cup of tea.

I’m writing specifically to Outlander fans in looking at this particular review, but I’m hoping it will hold true for any fandom and any review. The problem with ANY review for anything is that the person writing it is biased. They just are – accept that as fact. Their viewing or reading or listening is going to be colored by their own likes, background, prejudices and a myriad of other things including what they had for breakfast that day! Use any such thing as a guide. I would often ask customers ‘who do you already LIKE to read?’ and make recommendations for things I knew or had been told by many people were similar. Keep in mind too – some people will just flat misrepresent something because they decided, before ever looking at the material, they weren’t going to like it. That is what this guy did and why I got so riled about it.

One specific thing he trounced was the Gaelic in the show. Having met Àdhamh – I know just how passionate he IS to get the language right! He told us how hard the cast, especially Sam, has worked to make it as accurate as possible. Is it going to be perfect? Of course not – these are not native speakers. Are there going to be production decisions made outside the language experts control for various reasons? Unfortunately yes. It happens. But overall I think they have done a damn fine job with the Gaelic and pray it brings a new interest for the language overall and helps revive it. Ok off that soapbox.

He also put up a screen cap of one of the polls we were voting in. The Zimbio ‘couples’ poll. I’m sure he was trying to subtly make his point his is indeed just a soft porn romance without saying that. I posted about this already – but all these polls are so the show will be noticed by people that might not know about it. Good as STARZ has been with marketing – a lot of people are very focused on their own thing. How many people in the Zap2it poll had never heard of Sam Heughan or Outlander but are watching it now?

So, respond and give the guy more visibility or not? Everyone has to make up their own mind. Me personally say GO FOR IT……………………..IF………………….you can give a clear, level headed, meaningful reply to counteract all the negative crap. Being a ‘rabid fan’, using a lot of bad language, saying what an idiot this person is really doesn’t HELP the cause. (And I have to thump on myself here as I tend to get a wee bit snippy when ticked off – it shows in my earlier comment to him – mea culpa).

All we can do is promote the truth, about Outlander or whatever we are passionate about. Not all will agree and that is ok. It takes all kinds to make up the world and everyone like the same thing it would be very boring! People like this guy – I’m just as glad he doesn’t like it because I wouldn’t want to have him around fan stuff. The recent Zap2it poll where Sam was up against Misha Collins (ok I can actually hear all those groans ladies!) is another example. I’m going to watch the show, give it a whirl because ONE person was very positive about the show, the actors and towards us as Outlander fans. I will never get involved in that fandom. OMG…Same with Dr. Who – although the fans were bad enough around those polls I actually have no desire to even watch the show. Their snotty, negative, cruel, and obnoxious behavior completely turned me off to the show, the actors and most especially the fandom! That is totally unfair to the show I realize that, but it was also a big wakeup call to ME about the responsibilities of being a ‘passionate’ fan.

I am not perfect. I screw up on a regular basis. I am trying very hard to NOT respond to anything I get riled about until I’ve cooled off for a bit – don’t always manage it. Please feel free to call me on that. If I’m going to write things for public consumption I WANT to be held accountable. I may not change my opinion, just be more tactful about how I present it.

I’m going to respond to this guys second blog as well (it will be the second link above) now that I’ve cooled off. What he didn’t get, and probably doesn’t care to – is that he misrepresented the show. I don’t care if he doesn’t like it, but don’t say it’s a rotten apple when it’s actually a peach.

Will the voting never END?!?!

Vote Sam

As a (fairly) dedicated Outlander fan, I’ve been immersed in ‘fandom’ as I never have before. The whole experience with Outland has been marvelous – I mean contests (that I don’t tend to try for because living on a boat I don’t have a lot of room for swag), pictures, videos, lots of access to the stars and the production team and just……………… it almost gets overwhelming. I don’t follow everyone associated because so much gets retweeted that I already seem many things multiple times. Of course I miss things too. I also have very inconsistent and poor internet connection so it makes it hard to be as current as I’d like to be.


We have been voting….a LOT….for months……………and it’s getting old. Not all the voting has been a positive experience. The Anglophile polls with Caitriona got very nasty and I will admit I lost my cool a bit with the Dr. Who fans. Not proud of it, but it did seem to knock down a lot of the real trouble makers for the rest of the poll. I promised not to ‘post’ in the final round as self-inflicted punishment and avoid any other problems. That was very hard as our fandom was having such a wonderful time commenting in character and just generally having a party.

We, the fans, have busted our collective *ss to win many of these polls for our beloved books, show and actors. They appreciate it, are overwhelmed by it and probably wonder just a little bit about our sanity. I wonder about my sanity all the time so that’s ok. I’m sure at this point many are thinking ‘do we really need to win yet another poll?’

Here is my thought on it. Sony and Starz are in this to make money. Straight up that is the deal. They have found a great formula working with the fans and incorporating them into their marketing strategy for both Outlander and Black Sails (maybe others shows too but these are the only two I follow). It works very well and has been very successful for them. But if either of these shows starts getting tepid responses, doesn’t continue to gain viewers, basically stop paying for themselves….they will be cut and something else will replace them. It’s business. No matter how great the story, the acting and all the work that puts it out there, if it doesn’t pay for itself it will be gone.

To me, as annoying as all this voting can be, what we are doing besides showing our love/support for Outlander – we are getting the word out there in many places. We are getting the show and the stars recognized, in front of people from other fandoms and genres. It’s working and that is a good thing. Many may not have caught in the tributes to Leonard Nimoy that Sam got included in the lineup. That is actually pretty huge.

We all have lives away from Twitter and the polls – I get that. I just finished a novel & am going through the process of looking for an agent & jumping through those hoops.  Kids, jobs, other fandoms to support – all that stuff. The voting is tiresome and we’ve all done a lot of it. I think it’s worth it.

The more visibility the show gets, the bigger the fan base the more people we will have to vote in these things. All of that gives the show a much higher chance of being kept on the air. So keep voting, and keep encouraging others to vote.

STRATEGY!!!! Hit it hard early on if possible and get a big lead then KEEP voting! Maintaining a good lead is way easier than struggling to get back over 50% as we found out with the E!online poll.

The polls that can be voted on multiple times – we tend to do well on. We are a tenacious group that have a strong desire to win for our show! There are, however, polls that only allow one vote by a given IP address (like the SPOILER TV rounds going right now 1 July 2015). These are harder for us because we simply don’t have the numbers that some of the other fandoms do. So it comes full circle. If we are a positive, upbeat fandom that attracts people with our actions, attitudes and positive comments on other polls we will hopefully gain more fans that will help us in single vote polls in the future.

Something else to remember – for the fans of The 100 or  Supernatural or whatever show we happen to be up against in whatever poll – THEIR show is just as important to them as Outlander is to us. We don’t understand their dedication and obsession any more than they get ours – HOWEVER – don’t diss their show or actors. Don’t say things like “don’t see how you can like that silly boy who can’t act – he doesn’t hold a candle to Sam!” ……………………Please, I beg you don’t say stuff like this!  You know how your hackles get up when people say stuff like this about Sam/Cait/the show……imagine what it does with them! Stay positive always – you attract more flies with honey than vinegar and people from other fandoms are far more likely to give Outlander a shot if we stay positive and say nice things about them and their fandom. Don’t lie – but:


Tulach Àrd!

Edited 3/11/15 @6pm
Edited 7/1/15 @10am PT
Edited 7/17/15 @3:18pm PT